HORN PAPERS =
VOL 3 is okay per Herman = print it out, msh
MYSTERY OF THE HORN PAPERS
In Sept 1771, on the complaint of some of their neighbors, charging
family of being Pennsylvania settlers, loyal to Pennsylvania, the
ZELLERS men were brought to Court. Judge Jacob HORN found the family to
be loyal "to the settlers and to Virginia" and made an Order of the
Court, which was posted, declaring this and changing their name from
ZELLER to SELLERS.
At this Court hearing JACOB ZELLER declared he was born in Zurich,
Switzerland in 1696 and came by sailboat to Philadelphia, and to
Chester, thence to Shippensburg and to the Northwest August County in
the spring of the year 1771, not knowing one colony from another. He
and his sons all agreed to the loyal Virginia settlers "if the Corte set
down his Ord for Virginia - in their prayer book - no Ord being made for
this - the Corte by the statement of the sons, LEONARD, GEORGE,
CHRISTIAN and JACOB ZELLER - they did not claim to be Penn settlers on
Virginia land by Crawford or Hanna's desire - to hold this territory as
one part of Penn claims."
The Court accepted their explanation, declared them Virginians and
changed the ZELLER to SELLERS "by Ord of Camp Cat Fish Corte this 4th
day of September 1772 .... Jacob HORN, Justie. C. HORN, Clk." (Justie-
Justice of Judge)
Another record of this was kept and reads as follows:
"Camp Cat Fish Corte, Sepember 4, 1772: Being advised that some of
Bedford County settlers beyond South Tingooqua Creek are not loyal to
the King and the Colony of Virginia, the Corte did make known their
intentions whereupon CHRISTIAN ZELLER did make known his rights to
homestead in Virginia territory. He did make it known that he was the
son of JACOB ZELLER born in Zurich, Switzerland in 1706, and did come to
Bedford County and marry KATHERINE REILER, and that JOHN, JACOB, ACE,
LEONARD, CHRISTIAN, and BARBARA was born. He, CHRISTIAN, make it known
he was born in Bedford in 1744 and homesteaded in Springhill in 1771 and
did say by word of agreement that he and all the ZELLERS be under
Virginia law, whereupon the Corte did find them loyal to Virginia and
did set down the name of SELLERS as the lawful name. Hence, the other
persons named in complaint did all make known the same agreement and all
are set down on 6he Camp Cat Fish Corte records as loyal Virginia
settlers by Ord of Jacob HORN,, this da, September 4, 1772. C. HORN,
Records - Jacob HORN< Justie" ( Ref: HORN PAPERS, b W.F. Horn, Vol
1 & 2)
The name of one son, George, was omitted from the second account. I do
not know if I failed to copy that name, or if it was not in the second
record of the event in the HORN PAPERS).
Also, in Vol 5 of SELLERS LETTERS, I wrote that I believed it
Christian ZELLER who married Katherine REILER. That was a wrong
assumption. Katherine REILER was his mother. Also, Ace was later at
times shown as AKE and AKI.
Mary Inglis (Mary Inglis Sims
HERMAN= firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> Vol's 1 and 2 of "HORN PAPERS" are fiction-a con job pulled on the sw Pa
> Hist Soc who published them. Vol 3's atlas is as accurate as any . Mr
> Horn created the following from his mind-not fact
In a message dated 7/6/99 5:24:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
<< I doubt if the court records would also be "fiction".
What is your source for your statement? I showed mine. >>
I have heard the same thing about the HORN papers. I found this
the net but have not viewed the article myself:
"The Mystery of the Horn Papers" by Arthur Price MIDDLETON and
ADAIR. William & Mary Quarterly 3,4 (1947: 409-43.
The Website referred to the above article as, "the unmasking of the
I have used Volume #3 of the papers as it is plat maps and they have
proven to be very useful in my research.
Is there an URL # to this site?
Send copy of All info to SELLERS -
AND do we have COUNTY/STATE info on these families? would help to check
> Here is the source (cut and pasted from Alta Vista):
> 7. Notes to Forgeries and Facsmilies
> Notes. 1. For discussions of the careers of various forgers and famous
> forgeries, see J. A. Farrer, Literary Forgeries (London, 1907); Richard
> Altick, The.
> URL: www.virginia.edu/gwpapers/articles/forgeries/ff-notes.html
> Last modified 31-May-99 - page size 3K - in English [ Translate ]
> In a message dated 7/7/99 12:13:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> email@example.com writes:
> << Thank you for your comments. I certainly do not want to argue the
> about whether or not the Horm papers are fictitious and as long as
> there are court records we can go around what is found in the Horn
> papers, make comparisons, and satisfy ourselves about the events as
> recorded. >>
> I agree with your comment above. I just wanted to provide a source for
> interested in reading about any problems having to do with the Horn
> for themselves. I plan to get a copy of the article for my records via
> library loan. Even with that said I found the Horn Papers interesting
> nonetheless, though like yourself give me those court, probate, deed
> anytime....Randy Franklin
I remember last year there was some talk about the Horn Papers being
The following link sent to me recently has an interesting article about how
this came to be.
I think we have a copy of original HORN PAPERS - maybe, we don't have
All of Them?
And Maybe just extracts -
AND I have seen some other families Prove Errors-
WHERE are our SELLERS errors?
I kinda thought these were the SELLERS in Wash/Greene Co, PA
YES, maybe WE haven't proven JACOB?
PLEASE, give me a Very Plain Chart on what is WRONG with our SELLERS
the HORN papers with What we have Proven = gotta be so I can
THEN, we can Post this info on the HORN PAGE , so I'll remember and
Others will know,etc.
THANKS, marie, iowa
Hendcoa@aol.com,will you please snail mail me xerox of any
in the Horn Papers,Vols 1+2. Marie,Vol 3 of Horn Papers is o.k.. Vol 1 +
2 is fiction
written by one who knew well the history of the area.
G. S. MacManus
HORN, W.F. The Horn Papers. Early Westward Movement on the
Monongahela and Upper Ohio, 1765-1795. Scottdale, Pa., 1945. 1st ed. 8vo. and
folio. Three vols. (complete with atlas volume). 885pp. plus atlas with 81 folding
maps. Library marks. Orig. cloth. Very good set. Very scarce. , MONONGAHELA
OHIO VALLEY ...
< William and Mary Quarterly
Date: 5/8/00 2:57:43 PM Central Daylight Time
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Rebecca Wrenn)
Thank you for your interest in the William and Mary Quarterly. I believe
the article you are referring to is: "The Mystery of the Horn Papers," by
Arthur Pierce Middleton and Douglass Adair. It was published in the third
series of the Quarterly, vol. 4, no. 4 (Oct., 1947), p. 409-445.
We do offer subscriptions to an online version of the William and
Quarterly, which lets you search and print articles from any issue of the
Quarterly from 1892 through 1994. This service is run by an organization
called JSTOR, and a year-long subscription costs $50. If you are
interested in the online Quarterly, more information about it is available
on our website at: http://www.wm.edu/oieahc/JSTOR.html; or feel free to
contact me at: email@example.com or by phone at (757) 221-1134.
If you are interested only in the article you mentioned, I would be
to send you a copy of it. The Quarterly charges a fee of 20 cents per
to cover copying and postage charges, which for 37 pages comes to $7.40.
If you have any further questions, please let me know.
>Sir or Madam, I am new on the Internet, and with computers. In
>1947 The William and Mary Quarterly ran an article on the Horn's Papers.
>might I go about either on the net, or otherwise view this article?
>you for anyhelp you might offer. fdh. Dennis of Peoria, ILL.
I can NOT find where I have or access to WM and MARY quarterlys - HORN
>From a Fast Look , I believe I can sign up for JSTOR? for $50 and copy
I don't believe it is copyrighted? IF so, we could only use excerpts and
sometimes excerpts on ONE family is okay.
I wasn't Real Sure if JSTOR? info Was Complete article of Wm and Mary
ADVISE, if you have studied?
MAY look at later tonite.
There is NO reason for All of us to join or pay for Same Info we can share
SELLERS = this goes for census/history, etc.
The excerpt that MARY SIMS sent may be ALL the info - Or it may be an
HERMON wrote someone that evidently has copy of WM and MARY quarterly and
for extractions - HE has pretty good helpers also and Will Send to us -
I kinda feel better when I see Exact Papers, etc - NOW, I don't want
Mystery of HORN papers - I would like to read the article on SELLERS in
IS that what JSTOR has?
THANKS, marie, iowa
Hi Marie, on the date of May. 2, & 8th, I wrote to you on the subject
Mystery of the Horn Papers," written up in the Oct, 1947 William and Mary
wrote back "I will fell better when I see Exact Papers, etc.-Now I don't
Just the Mystery of the Horn papers- I would like to read the article on
Sellers in Horns Papers,"--- A few years back I ordered the Horns Papers
throu- the L. D. S. genealogy dept. For the main purpose of comparing Mary
SIMMs article with that which she had written, concerning our Zellers to
Sellers.( Oct, 1982.) She had stated correctly, what Horn had written on
subject, as well as vol. and pg. number. On the date of May 8, this year. I
sent by snail mail, a check for the amount of $7.40 to the William and Mary
Quarterly for said article "The Mystery" I received said papers on this
subject, May, 22. I said papers, for there are 37 pg. The information in
article is just to vast to even try to paraphrase. I had no idea, Just "in
volume 2, is made up of more than 500 family histories and genealogies of
early setters in the region." My suggestion to any family that has much
dependency about there genealogy riding on the Horn Papers, should order
article. ( I will gave said address later.) The reason this article is
called "The Mystery" Is the question, why he product starting from A to Z.
all this Fake information and documents, mixed with just enough true
to make it all sound feasible? Next question is, just how does this effect
Us Sellers who's people came from Green County? " The Zellers - Sellers
written in vol. 1 & 2. the Catfish camp court papers? Hear is just part of
what is written on pg. 434-435............." That left only the court
the three maps and the artifacts. The manuscripts, purporting to be
upon which The Horn Papers are based, amount to 56 of the 141 pages of
primary material contained in the work."--------------------This is the
report of the examination of the alleged docket of "Camp Cat Fish Corte"
three manuscript maps purporting to be of the period
1770-1790."-------------------- " In view of the results set forth above,
is my opinion that: ( 1) The docket and maps were not produced during the
period 1760-1800 as stated but were manufactured at a considerable later
date. ( 2 ) One person.... produced all the items examined. ( 3 ) Although
the precise determination of the age of the ink inscriptions of this type
difficult, it is most probable that these writings were produced no earlier
than 1930... ( These court docket together with......... were sent to Mr.
E. Kimberly, of Washington DC for scientific analysis. April, 25,
Pg. 443-44. " The official statement of the Committee on the Horn
Papers........... # ( 5 ) That the so-called surviving "Original
upon which The Horn Papers are based-the Camp Cat Fish Court Docket,
1772-1774, and the three maps that purport to be of the period 1751-1795-
recent fabrication:........ # ( 7 ) ...................The Horn Papers is a
fabrication and therefore that historians and genealogist ought not to rely
on any data in vol. 1 and 2: even the extract from the Federal census of
in volume 2 is grossly inaccurate,......./ This report was written 53
ago, here is written a statement about us. pg. 442...........But the story
of The Horn Papers is still not ended, for the noxious influences of The
Papers are already fermenting and will continue to work for an
time. Many genealogist have already incorporated Horn data in their reports
of various family lines, and as the results the national headquarters of
D. A. R. has had to take precaution to cope with them.----------Thus the
poison works on. And, undoubtedly, for years to come some unwary
will continue to be mislead by the documents' fascinating
William and Mary Quarterly......Becky Wrennfirstname.lastname@example.org
Becky wrote to me, I believe the article you are referring to is " The
Mystery of the Horn Papers, 'by Arthur Pierce Middleton and Douglass Adair.
It was published in the third series of the Quarterly, vol.4 ( Oct; 1947)
p.409-445-----you may contact me by e-mail or by phone at ( 757)
221-1134;--------------/ If you are interested only in the article you
mentioned, I would be happy to send you a copy. The Quarterly charges a
of 20 cents per page to cover copying and postage charges, which for 37
comes to $7.40. // Rebecca Wrenn JSTOR Coordinator
Omohundro Institute of Early American History & Culture.
PO Box 8781
Williamsburg, VA. 23187-8781--------------------------------/
The Raymond M. Bell Anthology
The Horn Brothers of
Washington County, Pennsylvania
About 1774 the Horn brothers, John
32, Christopher 29, Hardman
27 and the Hewitt brothers, Philip 33, Peter 31 came to Washington
County. They were newly wed, except John, who was single. In the
1783 Amwell Township tax list the Hewitts and John and Hardman Horn
are listed together. Christopher was in adjoining (West) Bethlehem
Township. In 1786 Hardman moved to what is now Buffalo Township.
They came from the region of Hagerstown, Maryland. Hardman may
have lived across the Potomac in Berkeley County, (West) Virginia,
for his oldest son, Martin, said he was born in Virginia. This was
all part of a fairly large migration from western Maryland to the
newly opened up southwestern Pennsylvania.
The earliest record of the Horn family is the 1771 baptism at
Zion Reformed Church, Hagerstown of George Horn b February 17-1771,
parents Christopher and Catharine Horn, sponsors Philip Hewitt
and wife, Eve. In 1772 John Horn b Apr 7-1772 was baptized at Ger-
man Evangelical and Lutheran Church, Funkstown (5 miles southeast
of Hagerstown) with Peter Hewitt sponsor. Peter was a Horn sponsor
in Washington County in 1791. Philip Hewitts' son Henry was bap-
tized at Zion in 1772, so Lewis at Funkstown 1773.
The Horns were from a German-speaking country. A Christopher
Horn and a John Horn landed at Philadelphia in 1753. Other Horns
who took the oath of allegiance were George, Jacob, Martin - all
Washington County Horn names. The names of the parents of the Horn
brothers are not known. The Horn Papers (not trustworthy) say the
father was Jacob. The mother may have been a Hardman - a name found
in ship lists and in Maryland and Pennsylvania.
JOHN HORN b Oct 6-1742 d Sep 26-1826 Amwell Two m1 1775 Sarah
ner c1755-c1784, m2 c1784 Catharine Gardner b Feb 29-2752 d Apr 27 1832
1. David 1776-1824 m 1806 Ann Black
Ch: Elizabeth, John, Catharine, Jacob, Rebecca,
Michael, Sarah, Samuel, David
2. Daniel b Feb 9-1778 d 1841 m c1801 (Mary) Magdalena --- 1779-
Ch: Catharine, David, Daniel, John, Martin, Laurana, Nancy,
3. Michael 1780-1820 m1 Elizabeth Clark, m2 Elizabeth Closser -1854
Ch: Mary, Sarah, Henry, John, Isaac, Nicholas, Margaret
4. Elizabeth c1782- m 1832 Lewis Redd
5. Mary c1785- m Frederick Hohexman
6. Catharine c1788- m --- Hill
7. Susanna b Mar 5-1790 d Aug 2-1873 m 1806 Joseph Huffman 1782-1839
8. Ann c1792- m George Sowers
9. John b Apr 28-1794 d Nov 11-1868 m1 1815 Mary Closser 1789-1838
m2 1839 Margaret Carter (Andrews) 1818-1885
Ch: John, Mahala, Harriett, Andrew, Maria, Robert, Sydney
10. Sarah 1797-1872 m 1815 Jacob Swagler 1795-1876
CHRISTOPHER HORN b Jul 1745 d Dec 14-1809 West Bethlehem Twp
m 1770 Catharine Watson b 1748 d Nov 28-1828
1. George b Feb 17-1771 MD living 1809
2. John b Apr 17-1772 Md d Apr 6-1856 m1 1791 Barbara Young 1769-
1838, m2 1839 Mary Shape 1810-1897
Ch: Jacob, Catharine, Mary, Christopher, George, John,
Elizabeth, David, Adam, Samuel, Susanna, Leah, Lydia,
Joel, Joseph, Joshua, Martin, Elva
3. Catharine b Dec 22-1774 d May 31-1853 m John Dague 1788-1838
4. Margaret 1776- m bef 1800 Andrew Gantz
5. Elizabeth 1778- living 1809
6. Mary 1780- living 1809
7. Christina 1783- living 799, dead 1809
8. Jacob b Dec 31-1786 d Oct 12-1858 m Mary --- 1783-1853
Ch: Mary, Catharine, James, Andrew
9. Magdalena 1788- living 1809
10. Sabina b Mar 19-1791 d Mar 16-1851 m Jonathan Delong 1794-1868
11. Anna 1793- m Henry Meek
HARDMAN Horn b Jan 17-1747 d Oct 1811 Buffalo Twp m 1771
Elizabeth Hough b 1748 d Dec 27-1823 Knox Co. Ohio
1. Martin b Mar 11-1772 Va d 1856 m1 c1793 Margaret Wilkins 1774-,
m2 Margaret Sharp
Ch: Hardman, Rosanna, John, Jacob, Joseph, Mart, Martin
2. Christian b Jan 29-1774 d Sep 1-1848 Knox Co m Jul 2-1795
Mary Wolf b Aug 1-1776 d Sep 28-1850
Ch: John, Elizabeth, Hardman, Sabina, Peter, Benjamin, Mary,
Christian, Martin, Delilah, Noah, Abraham S
3. Isaac b 1776 d Nov 16-1844 Hopewell Twp m c1802 Mary Ann --- 1779-1838
Ch: Mary, Abraham, Christopher, Delia, Isaac, Polly
4. Catharine b 1778 d Feb 3-1805 m c1797 Lewis Hewitt 1773-1864
5. Jacob b Apr 12-1781 d Mar 16-1858 Knox Co m 1808
Magdalena Ely b Oct 11-1787 d Dec 24-1862
Ch: Elizabeth, Mary, Abraham, Jacob, Susannah, John, Solomon,
Catharine, Sabina, Rosanna, Kesiah, Christina
6. Elizabeth b Aug 18-1785 d Jan 26-1849 m c1805
Philip Dennis b c1778 d 1835 Knox Co
7. Joseph b 1787 d Nov 21-1853 Knox Co m 1811
Susanna Ely b Oct 17-1787 d Mar 16-1874
Ch: Hardman, William, Mary, John, Isaac, Elizabeth, Martin,
Jacob, Abraham, Joseph, Keziah, Solomon
8. Mary Ann b Sep 16-1790 d Mar 23-1862 m Nov 9-1809
Peter Ealy b Apr 22-1785 d Apr 7- 1869 Knox Co
9. Benjamin b 1792 d Jul 7-1855 Knox Co m c1814 Anna --- 1796-
Ch: Hardman, Daniel, Miriam, Elizabeth, Hiram, Josiah,
David, Ann, Washington, Prudence, Benjamin
This article was transcribed by Liz DuBois of Bremerton, WA in August
Raymond M. Bell Anthology Genealogy in
Washington Co., PA
Published with permission of Raymond M. Bell.
MYSTERY OF THE HORN PAPERS
From the " Bicentenial Edition " Marie, one can order the Horns Papers from Mary & William Collage on line. " The William and Mary Quartery Third Series, Volum 4 Number 4. Oct. 1947. These said papers will also cover the Zellers to Sellers Story. I am sending through to you 3 more pages from the Society Edition besides this page. I do hope that they come through ok. Marie be it our family genealogy tree or our faith, we must check it all out and hold onto the truth. As I wrote before I wish that his " Mr. Horn's " story could be believed, but you know the old saying "Wish in one hand & spit in the other & see which one fills up the fastest. LOL. FDH Dennis H.
the story of the Zellers to Sellers of Green County or Washington County Pa.
can be found in the Sellers letters June 1984 ( Vol 3. #3 ) page 52