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    I'm a great great grandson of John Andrew Sellers Sr. of Mississippi. My
family used nicknames for some of the Johns.  John Andrew Jr was called
John
Cush. John Andrew Sr was called John A.  There was another John that I
need
help with. His nickname was Bugger John. He had a sister or daughter named
(Ancie) Bell. I understand Bugger was cousin but I need  help on how he
fits
in.

Jim Sellers
2107 W. Austin Place
Broken Arrow, OK 74011
Jpsellers@aol.com



Thanks for your quick response. Your great-great Grandfather Irwin Sellers
is
an older brother of my great great Grandfather John Andrew Sellers b 1834.
John Andrew Jr. is John Andrew's son born Dec 2 1854 in either Covington
or
Jones counties.  When John Andrew Jr was 20 years old, he had a son Thomas
J.
Sellers by Bell Sellers, a cousin in 1874, and she was the daugher or
sister
of a Sellers nicknamed Bugger John.  As you can see this is a twig that
not
everyone wants to recognize as being on the branch, but it happened, and I
am
a descendant of Thomas J. Sellers who lived near Moselle Mississippi until
1925.  John Andrew Jr. later married Rose Ann Jones.

Bell Sellers first married  a guy name Colmer and ran a boarding house
(Hotel)
in Gulfport Mississippi during early 1900s.  Bell's second husband was
Alton
Holifield. After Holifield died, she married a Runnels from Laurel
Mississippi. Bell Sellers died in Jones County Nov 5, 1932.   Bugger John
had
a son named George Sellers born around 1900.

We know that John Andrew and Irwin's father was named John.  I copied a
notation out of Census list of Mississippi Sellers compiled from U.S.
Census
records:

1830 Covington County, MS - created 1819 out of Lawrence and
WayneCounties.
  John Sellers #145
1834 May 04 - John Andrew Sellers born to Richard John Sellers and Sarah
McLemore in Covington Co., MS.[IGI]

If the above information is correct, John Andrew and Irwin's father was
named
Richard John Sellers and not John Andrew. It is possible that Richard John
could have been written down wrong and should have been John Richard. I
just
thought that I would throw that piece of info in for free.

I apologize for being long winded, but I think that this info may help
trigger
a memory somewhere.

Best Regards,
Jim Sellers
2107 W. Austin Place
Broken Arrow, OK 74011
Jpsellers@aol.com



JIM - Thanks - We don't have all the MS census we need- to work better on
these
families - esp 1860 and 1870 and we even need 1850 Covington Co, MS-
IF you have extracted any, please send -
1880 JONES CO, MS=



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  Ginny,

You asked where I found the source about John Andrew Sellers (b. 1834, May
4)
to Richard John Sellers and Sarah McLemore in Covington County MS. I found
while looking through a Sellers genealogy internet page at this address:

http://www.netins.net/showcase/sellerfamily/mssell.htm

There are other marriages and births listed for the different counties and
years and it is a fairly long list.

On John Andrew father's name of Richard John, I'm inclined to believe it
may
have been John Richard.

Best Regards,

Jim Sellers
2107 W. Austin Place
Broken Arrow, OK 74011
Jpsellers@aol.com



Ginny,
       I do not know who posted the info to the MS Sellers page.  I am
unaware of the document they used to extract the info.  I did send info in
the other night about the marriage of John Sellers to Sarah Jeriah
(Joriah)
McLemore.  I thought it might clear up some of the confusion. Did it make
it onto the site and to the Sellers page? I havn't had time to check all
of
my e-mail yet.
      I have never!!!! seen any document with any other name for our John
except John until I started on the Internet.  I have been researching this
family for almost 10 yrs. now and I have tons of stuff, but not once have
any of the other Sellers researchers I communicate with have ever found
anything either.  True, John and Sarah did name a son John Andrew and they
also had a son named King Richard, but John (Aug. 14, 1800 S.C.) has
always
been listed as simply John. Not even in his divorce papers (Jones Co.,MS)
is his name listed other than John!!  One would think that if he went by
any other names, it would have been included because there were several
other John's by that time.
      Hope this helps.  I'll try to post what I have on John Andrew
Sellers's family to the site.
Linda 


Hello to All,
      I am going to briefly list some known children of John Andrew
Sellers
(b. May 4, 1834 & d. Sept. 29, 1922) m. 1st: Mary Ann Easterling (b.Dec.
25, 1830 & d.Oct. 13, 1883) of Jones Co., MS.  I say briefly, because my
time tonight is limited.  For those who are really interested, I do have
birth, death, & marriage dates on some and also where buried on some.  I
have been to their old home place and walked through the cemetery as well.
      1.) William Wilson Sellers m. Demaris M. Gandy
              (1) John Willis Sellers
              (2) Walter L. Sellers m. Fannie ?
              (3) William Oscar Sellers, Sr. m Willie H. Gandy
              (4) Maude Sellers m. Harold Broome
              (5) Claudia Sellers
              (6) Ella Sellers m. Felix F. Laird
      2.) John Andrew Sellers, Jr. m. Rosanna Jones (oddly enough on his
tombstone it is listed as John J.)
              (1) Thomas J. Sellers m. Eva Lou
              (2) James W. Sellers m. Martha B. ?
              (3) Clyde A. Sellers m. Alma D. ?
              (4) Addie V. Sellers m. R.E. Peel
              (5) Bessie B. Sellers
              (6) William M. Sellers
              (7) Mary E. Sellers m. Stanton B. Miller
       3.) Jefferson Tobe Sellers m. Elizabeth Gilbert
              (1) Mattie Jefferson Sellers m. 1st: Eugene E. Anderson
                                                      m. 2nd: L.C. Hallman
              (2) Robert C. Sellers m. Lucy ?
              (3) Anse Sellers m. Eller Belle Harris
              (4) John H. Sellers m Kate ?
              (5) Mary Annie Sellers



In a message dated 3/19/99 9:26:14 PM Central Standard Time,
mari@netins.net
writes:

<< THOMAS 5 MS, GrandSon
 Now this is the child that is John Jr SELLERS above and his cousin Belle
SELLERS? >>



Yes, this is Thomas J. Sellers that John Jr and Belle Sellers had.

They married and had child OR they just had child?
John Jr. and Belle Sellers were not married when Thomas was born.

Did John's parents raise OR did he go live with John Jr after they left
his
parents? Belle brought Thomas to John Jr to raise when he was about 3 or 4
years old. To my knowledge John Jr. and Belle did not have any other
children
together. The 1880 census shows John Jr. and Rose Ann living with John Sr.
I'm inclined to believe that Thomas J. spent most of childhood years with
John
A Sr. because he treated Thomas like a son in the later years of his life.

The Ancebelle Sellers shown in the Jones County MS census is probably
about
the right age. The name Ancebelle is an unusual name which leads me to
believe
this is the same person who is the mother of Thomas J.  I don't know any
of
her other children's names.

Best Regards
Jim Sellers
jpsellers@aol.com



From: Jpsellers@aol.com
> To: Joseph Chrisman <jchrisman@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Mississippi Sellers
> Date: Friday, March 26, 1999 10:59 PM
>
> Linda,
>
> Thanks for the names on John A. Sellers Sr. and family. His grandson
Thomas
> J. Sellers was the son of John A. Sellers jr. and Ancebelle Sellers.
John and
> Belle did not marry.
>
> Thomas J. b. 4 Dec 1874, d. 1 jun 1967, married Eva Lou Loper (b. 10 mar
1890,
> d. 11jan 1982)
>
> Children:
> Virgil b. 12 mar 1907, died 6 jun 1970 married Ola Breland
> Vera  b. 15 jan 1909, died 4 nov 1980 married Winhorn Sumrall
> Laura b. 4 april 1910, died 26 Sep 1991 married Dennis Gilmore
> Louis b. 7 Oct 1911, died  24 jun 1968 married Ethel Coker
> Philip b 12 May 1913 married Lula Rogers
> Effie b. 29 Nov 1914 married Amos Strickland
> Ghita b. 8 jun 1916 married George McInnis
> Mae b. 4 mar 1918 married Earl Gill
> Hazel b. 8 Jul 1919 married Bennett McGregor
> Ellie b. 14 Mar 1921, died 8 Sep 1991 married George Bockoros
> Melva Lee b. 13 Jan 1923 married Curtis Lott
> Janelle b. 8 Feb 1925 married Carl Baker
> Essie, b. 7 Apr 1927 married Robinson Hickman
> John b. 31 Mar 1929 married Verna Taylor
> Haskell b.19 May 1931 married Hazel Toney
>
> Do you have any connections for Belle Sellers? I have two brothers George
and
> Clifford. I believe her father was named John also. The family says John
Jr.
> and Belle were cousins but I don't know 2nd, 3rd etc.
>
> I have provide information on Thomas J Sellers family if you or someone
else
> should be interested.
>
> Thanks
> Jim Sellers
> Broken Arrow, OK
>Jpsellers@aol.com



Linda,
I'm very pleased to make connections with someone "in-the-line" kin that
has
information on the same branches. I'm sure there are and have been others
who
have diligently researched the Mississippi Sellers.

I'm not sure that I have successful communicated where Thomas J. Sellers
fits
into the John A. Sellers Sr. clan. Thomas is the son of John A. Jr. and
Bell
Sellers and they are cousins. John A. Jr. was born 2 Dec 1854.  Thomas was
born in 4 Dec 1874.  There is a Ancebelle Sellers listed in 1880 Jones
County
census as being 23 years old. This means that she was born 1856-57.  Thomas
is listed as a 5 year old grandson in John A Sr  household in the 1880
Jones
County Census. If the Bell listed in the Jones County census is the mother
of
Thomas, then, she would have been 17 or 18 when Thomas was born.

The story passed down to me by my Dad and his sister is that Bell took
Thomas
to  live with his father John A. Jr. when he was around 4 years old. The
1880
Jones County census shows John A. Jr. and his wife Rose Ann Jones living
with
John A. Sr. and wife Mary Ann. It does make some sense that  King Richard's
daughter Anabell went to live with John Andrew Sr. who had a daughter Susan
born in 1859. If the family was dividing up the children, it would seem
logical that they would want to put the girls in a family a girl close to
their age.

Just about all of my family lived in the Jones County area. John Jr. later
moved to Forrest County and lived near Brooklyn Mississippi. Thomas moved
from Jones County to Stone County around 1925. I have not heard the story
about the slave saving the family from a Yankee deserter. I would be
interested in hearing about the story.

I'm sure that we have a lot information to share and probably a number of
questions to ask.

Yours in-the-line
Jim Sellers



You may not be able to help me, but I'm looking for information on my
great-great grandfather Rev. R. Jeffery Loper, born 1857, died 10 Mar
1948.
He was married to Laura Williams (I have no info on her). Jeff and Laura

had
about 10 children of which my grandmother Eva Loper (born 10 Mar 1890,
died
11 Jan 1982) married Thomas Jefferson Sellers (born 4 Dec 1874, died 1
Jun
1967). Thomas was the grandson of John Andrew SellersSr., in 1880 census

as
being 5 years old.

Jeff Loper was raised by an Uncle in the Jones/Covington/Jasper County
area
of Mississippi. He pastored several churches in Jones and Forrest
counties
and there is supposed to be a book written about his ministry. If you
have
some information or could point me in the right direction, I would
appreciate
it.

thanks
Jim Sellers
jpsellers@aol.com



JIM, Thank You, I'll send this to our Sellers discussion group and see
if we get any replies.I believe you found 'cousins' here before when you
wrote and shared family info.  Send copy to us and Jim if you have any
ideas or help. I believe I woud check the churches and local library for
that 'Book' and there should also be an obituary on him - library may
have that also! You read the 1860 census? and is he living with Uncle
then? Probably a court order for guardianship?  marie, iowa



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    Marie,
I don't have an 1860 census and that would be one place to look. Jeff
Loper's
dad disappeared when he was very young which means his dad probably joined
the civil war and was killed in battle.  Family reports that the last time
he
saw his mother was at the age of six and they carried her away in a wagon.
Interpreted this  to mean that he and remaining children were orphaned.
The
practice was to divide orphaned children among the remaining families.

Thanks for your help.

Jim Sellers
jpsellers@aol.com