BURKE CO, NC LAND RECORDS

 1778=

JOHN SALOR, 300ACRES
MICHAEL SALOR
PHILIP SALOR, with brother JOHN SALOR
ISAIAH SALLYER
ZACHARIAH SALLYER
PETER CELLER
ISAAC LOLLER-land next to Wm GANT
HENRY LOLLER-  "                 "      "
HENRY SOLERS
JOSEPH SOLERS (impro by Reuben PERKENS) 


The following names of Petitoners of Lincoln Co NC is found in:
        Burke Co NC Land Records, Vol II, 1779-1790 & Important Misc Papers
1777-1800 (the title page is missing, but I believe this book is by Brent
Holcomb - If someone knows the actual author please let me know).
        The org is found in NC Leg. Papers, Box 27, Folder 19 Oct 1779, NC
Archives.

A part of Burke County was annexed to Lincoln Co, NC.  The act of 1783 was
amended in 1818 ... from the three cornered Island in the Catawba River to
the bent of Little River in James Fox's land .. agreeable to the act of
1793 to have a portion of Burke county annexed to Lincoln county 1779 ....
Signatures on the petition are as follows:  (they are not in alpha order,
but in the order they appear on the org petition)

Robert Blackburn
Wm Cumberland
Danl McKesick
Wm (x) Kenner
James Martin
Miekl (x) Hackelman
John (x) Lindes
John Guice (?)
Wm Gant
Reuben (x) Guttry
Jacob (x) Heckleman
John (x) Bumgarner
Andres Chrislar
John (x) Keener
Michal (x) Miller
Isaac (x) Lollar, Sr
Isaac Lollar Jr
Jacob Lollar
Thomas Lollar
Thomas Welsh
Philip (x) Salar
John Willson
Fras. McCorkel
David McHorer
Petter (x) Linbarger
Michael (x) Houk
Niclass (x) Hellemon
James Fleming
Zachriah Saylers
Pettor (x) Saylor
Iseah Saylers
Martain (x) Sayler
Wm Tuper
Wm Brison
Samuel Brison
Joseph Crankleton
James Henry
Stephen Gaskn
John Hawkins
Adam Perkins
Vincent .....
Richd Fleming
David Hodson
Cornalous Clark
Robt Barklay
John Cronkelton
Joseph Cronkleton Jr
Samuel Thompson
Samuel Fisher
James B .....
Thomas Clark
John Thompson
Hernry Thompson
Alexander Thompson
Robert McCusick
Wm Thompson
Ruben Simpson
Thomas Duncan
Elijah Sherrill
James Litten
John Robinson
Jacob Paintar
John Salling
John Paintor
Archebel Hamilton
James White
Nathan (x) Goins
Wm Hanby (?)
Samuel Hollandsworth
Moses Sherrill
James Clark
Wm Clark
Wm Simpson
James Holdsclaw
Jacob Sherrill
Wm Sherrill
Adam Sherrill
Joshua Sherrill
Thomas Orsborn
Jacob Orsborn
John McCail
James Rankin
Wm Allexander
John Alexander
James Allexander
Wm Loyd
John Loyd
Jacob Gabril
John (x) Horseberger
John Borland
Davd Robinson
Canl McKesick
Joseph Jons
Jacop Fradrick
Graff .. Yorty

Henry Hollmon
Fredricke Hoselberger
Jacob Sids (Sides?)
Conrate Mengmens
Peter ...
John Shuferd
John Shufred  (two different signatures - Sr, Jr ??)
John Moll
Daniel Suferd
David Shuferd
John Shuferd
Davd Robinson
Philip Whitener
Joseph Smith
Isaac Vanhorn
...... Summey
Martin Colter
Thos. Wasdin
John Martin Shuferd
Philip bostin
Wm Cumberland
Henry Grose
Isaac William
John (x) Horse
Wm Dosson
Richd West
Jb Weaver
Wm (x) Kiner
W Bernhard (x) schaeiser
Henry Sumrow
Michael Sumrow
Michael Grindstaff
 

WE can remove some of these names and just leave the one sounding like
SELLERS,but, wanted you to see the neighbors -msh



4-25-1789 Burke Co,NC= JON SELLERS = 50 ACRES HEAD OF SILVER CREEK
jng JOHN MCKAY up creek
7-26-1789 Burke Co,NC = Joshua HALL, 50acres on persimmon Branch
a fork,of Silver CREEK jng own line
9-8-1790 Burke Co,NC = Moses WILKSON and John HALL to John MACKIE
of Wilkes Co,GA - 4 negro wenches=     Wit: Joshua HALL , Ann SELLERS

 From: RANDY
             Ydnar49 <Ydnar49@aol.com>
 Source: Edith Warren HUGGINS series on the records of Burke Co., NC. This
from Volume II (pg. 142). Date of 1795.

"Jury ordered to view and marke road nearest and best way from Cain Creek
up
towards Farris's old place about two miles to open a road that Rutherford
Court ordered to be cut through the WHITESIDE settlement: John HALL Sr.,
William McDANIEL (MCDOWELL?), William MORRISON, JR., Robert SELLERS, Robert
SELLERS Sr., Moses WILKINSON, Elihu HICKS, Joshua HALL, John HALL Jr., John
PIERSON, James SELLERS of James, John WATER, Michael DERREBERRY, John
MORRISON, John SELLERS Jr., J.E. ERWIN, C.C."



1815 BURKE CO, NC tax list for Capt McKINSEY CO, =
JAMES SELLERS, Rt one track of land of 250 acres lying on the head of
SILVER
CREAKE = 250 acres-$400 value-1 while pole -0 black poles - 0 stud horses

JAN 1820 BURKE CO, NC probate abstracts =
JAMES SELLERS, presented for probate. proved by Joshua HALL, John MORRISON
and Charrity SELLERS qualified as executors.


JANUARY, 1821 BURKE CO, NC court minutes
James SELLERS to SAMPSON SELLERS for 130 acres of land dated Aug 2nd, 1819
proved in open court by the oath of ISAIAH SELLERS, ordered to be recorded
and registered

JULY 1821 BURKE CO, NC court minutes
Richard E. ALLEN to JOHN SELLERS for 110 acres in part dated Nov 22, 1817
proved
in  court by oath of ISAIAH SELLERS subscribing witness thereto ordered to
be
recorded and registered.

(Are the Above deeds given earlier and just NOW recorded? msh)
NEED any explanations, etc - marie, iowa



RUTHERFORD CO, NC was made in 1779 from BURKE CO, NC and lays on the
south side of Burke Co, NC.
BURKE CO, NC made in 1777 from ROWAN CO,NC made in 1753 from ANSON CO,
which at that time covered a HUGE  portion of the state of  NC.

WHY don't we have LAND records posted for ROWAN CO, NC?
HOW can we find these people?

JOHN SELLERS had land here about 20 years before another SELLERS by
records.=

Jan 25,1779 BURKE CO, NC = JOHN SELLERS land entry #1844
surveyed 4-18-1784
issued 8-7-1787=
300 acres on both sides of Glade Creek a branch of Mudy Creek, beginning
at WILLIAL LEWISES corner. Wit=Samuel Gatton and John Jones

1-18-1795 ROBERT SELLERS = 50 Acres on west fork of SELLARS CREEK
beginning on THOMAS MACKEYS LINE running up the creek towards the
mountains on ----
(In 1795 we had an established? Sellers Creek,msh)

11-1792 entered 6-1799 issued 50 acres on south MOODY CREEK
from THOMAS MORRISONS corner.Wit=Thomas Morrison and John P?URDES/N
(BURGIN?msh)(Check for Pridgen,msh)
Written on this  = I TRANSFER my wright of the within warrant to JAMES
SELLERS for value received as witness my hand this 18th August
1797,signed JOHN SELLERS
wit = J. BURGIN
Survey of this land=11-1792 for JOHN SELLERS  shows beginning at Thomas
MORRISONS on Wm MORRISONS line  up a branch of MUDDY creek an East ---

1-14-1795= 71 Acres entered/issued 6-1799 to JAMES SELLERS on south
MOODY CREEK near SELLERS corner to GREESBELS? line near Tates line.
On the side Moody crossed over and Muddy written in

9-4-1799 entered 50 acres /issed 12-1800 to JOHN SELLERS laying between
JOHN SUMMERS and ALEXANDER GLAS and MICHAEL PINKLY on water of South
Muddy Creek

80 acres entered 3-1793/issued 6-1799 to JOHN SELLERS laying on SELLERS
CREEK a branch of MUDDY CREEK near GREENLEE's?(after I looked thro
Huggins books,msh)
Wit= JOHN and JAMES SELLERS

65 acres entered 10-1802/issued 12-1803 to WILLIAM SELLERS laying on
both sides of CAIN CREEK joining WILLIAM MORRISON and Elizabeth CHAPMANS
--crossing the creeks to an alliuam?
Wit=James BLACK and Andrew SPRA/OTT

1802/1803 =50 acres to JAMES SELLERS joining CHARLES MCDOWELL'S land
(bought of Wm MCDOWELL)and JAMES SELLERS land on both sides of a small
branch of MUDDY CREEK  and MCDOWELLS line crossing the branch of the
P/B/egemmine?----
Wit:James SELLERS and Owen SUMMERRALE

50 ACRES entered 2-1812/issued 11-1813 to JAMES SELLERS bounded by land
of GEN'L CHARLES MCDOWELL and the said JAMES  and including both sides
of MUDDY CREEK and west side of the WAGGON ROAD and west
WIT = JOHN SELLERS and MICHAEL SELLERS


1815 BURKE CO, NC tax list for Capt McKINSEY CO, =
JAMES SELLERS, Rt one track of land of 250 acres lying on the head of
SILVER
CREAKE = 250 acres-$400 value-1 while pole -0 black poles - 0 stud horses

JAN 1820 BURKE CO, NC probate abstracts =
JAMES SELLERS, presented for probate. proved by Joshua HALL, John MORRISON
and
Charrity SELLERS qualified as executors.

1820 BURKE CO, NC CENSUS =
CHARITY SELLERS, over 45
one male 26/45
one male 16/26

JANUARY, 1821 BURKE CO, NC court minutes
James SELLERS to SAMPSON SELLERS for 130 acres of land dated Aug 2nd, 1819
proved in open court by the oath of ISAIAH SELLERS, ordered to be recorded
and registered

JULY 1821 BURKE CO, NC court minutes
Richard E. ALLEN to JOHN SELLERS for 110 acres in part dated Nov 22, 1817
provedin  court by oath of ISAIAH SELLERS subscribing witness thereto ordered to
berecorded and registered.

(Are the Above deeds given earlier and just NOW recorded? msh)
NEED any explanations, etc - marie, iowa



KaylaL2828@aol.com wrote:

  I have seen Cain Creek mentioned several times with the
Sellars.
 Can anyone direct me or tell me Where Cain Creek Starts and Ends.  It
was listed in the deeds in Burke Co. at one point.  I know there is a Cain
Creek over in NC today.  And my grandfather said he was raised on Cain Creek.
So Any help would be great in locating this Cain Creek.  Thanks Dawn


 Here are the coordinates for Muddy Creek. Note that it is listed in Burke
> and McDowell Counties.
>
> State/County
> North Carolina Burke
> North Carolina McDowell
> USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map:  Glen Alpine
> Latitude:  354249N
> Longitude:  0815044W
>
> I attempted to trace the course of Muddy Creek on a topo map from
TopoZone
> and found that it joins the Catawba river just east of Bridgewater. The
> source of Muddy Creek seems to be several miles to the West in the
Habersham
> Mtns. near West Marion. Coordinates for the source seem to be 35.65 N and
> 82.06 W.
>
> It will take some investigating to compare these specific topo maps with
any
> deed records available. I am curious where the Seven Creeks map came
from.
>
> Cindy



From: CINDY
        "lunaloba" <lunaloba@texas.net>
The coordinates I sent before are for the North branch of Muddy Creek. The
South Branch runs south almost all the way to the Rutherford County line.

The coordinates for the point at which Muddy Creek and Silver Creek (as
described in the 1795 Deed for James Sellers) come closest together are
35.684N, 81.8446W .

this is a good map for seeing how Muddy Creek and Silver Creek lie
in
relation to each other. The town of Patten, marked with a red circle, is on
the South Branch of Muddy Creek. Following that stream north you can see
where it branches from the North Branch, and where it joins the Catawba
River just south of Lake James.

Going back to Patten and looking right (east) the next major stream is
Silver Creek. You can trace it back toward Morganton.

Apparently, the 100 acres in the deed of James Sellers 1795, describes land
between these two creeks.

http://mapping.usgs.gov:8888/gnis/owa/MapServer?f_name=Patten&f_state=NC&f_l
> atlong=353903N0815137W&f_type=ppl&server=TIGER



CINDY - Thanks - Your description is better explained than mine. But will
Send
info anyway. Think we will post this info with the deeds.
I didn't check the GenWeb county sites - they may have a good oldtime
picture?

SILVER CREEK , BURKE CO, NC, LATITUDE =354425N/LONGITUDE=0814239W
                                                            Morganton South
SILVERS COVE CREEK, HAYWOOD, NC, LAT=353707N/LONG=0825616W

CLYDE
GLADE CREEK, MCDOWELL CO, NC LAT=353912N/LONG=0820550W/MARIONWEST
GLADE CREEK, MCDOWELL CO, NC =LAT353351N/LONG0821617W/BLK MTN

MUDDY BRANCH,MCDOWELLCO,NC=LAT354813N/LONG=0820348W/LITTLESWITZ
MUDDY BRANCH, BURKE CO, NC, LAT=354249N/LONG=0815044W/GLEN ALPINE

CANE BRANCH, MCDOWELL CO,NC, LAT=353129N/LONG=0821005W/MOFFITTHILL
CANE CREEK, MCDOWELL CO, NC, LAT=353940N/LONG=0820617W,MARIONWEST

ON ONE OF THE DEEDS = survey for JAMES SELLERS 100 acres=
LYING BETWEEN SILVER CREEK AND MUDDY CREEK INCLUDING THE TOP OF THE
MOUNTAIN
CALLED THE PELED MOUNTAIN. RUNNING VARIOUS CORSES FOR COMPLEMENT. ENTERED 14TH DAY OF JANUARY 1795.
=====
ONLY THING I SAW for a possibility =
PEAKED KNOB , HAYWOOD, CO, NC, LAT=354713N/LONG=0830459W/WATERVILLE
PEAKED TOP, CALDWELL CO,NC=LAT355551N/LONG=0813547W/LENOIR
====
MCDOWELL CO WAS MADE IN 1842 from Burke and Rutherford Land. It lays on the left/west side of Burke Co,NC.
====
ANYONE else finds better, more exact descriptions, PleaseSend. marie, iowa



CINDY - Thanks for such a thorough JOB - Linked map URL to page, etc-
I couldn't determine the names of the creeks by the maps, but, if you take the Long and Lat measurements = about where you are
And there may be a way of doing this on the GNIS = I just did names.

NOW, can we kinda place this Pealed Mountain on there?
What I found, only used Peal and Peak for query =
ON ONE OF THE DEEDS = survey for JAMES SELLERS 100 acres=
LYING BETWEEN SILVER CREEK AND MUDDY CREEK INCLUDING THE TOP OF THE
MOUNTAIN CALLED THE PELED MOUNTAIN. RUNNING VARIOUS CORSES FOR COMPLEMENT. ENTERED
14TH DAY OF JANUARY 1795.
=====
(this is the wording of the Deed!msh)
ONLY THING I SAW for a possibility =
PEAKED KNOB , HAYWOOD, CO, NC, LAT=354713N/LONG=0830459W/WATERVILLE
PEAKED TOP, CALDWELL CO,NC=LAT355551N/LONG=0813547W/LENOIR
(Caldwell Co was made in 1841 from Burke and Wilkes)
==============
THIS MAY NOT be ALL Possibilities -
============

ANYONE Want a LAND DESCRIPTION LOOKED UP pertaining to SELLERS families?
PLEASE send description thro our discussion group.
Thanks, Cindy.
marie, iowa
=====================



FROM CINDY
         "lunaloba" <lunaloba@texas.net
Looking at the following entry made me curious about this location. USGS
GNIS did not have a listing for Sellers Creek, but it did for Greenlee.
Hereare the coordinates:

80 acres entered 3-1793/issued 6-1799 to JOHN SELLERS laying on SELLERS
CREEK a branch of MUDDY CREEK near GREENLEE's?(after I looked thro
Huggins books,msh)
Wit= JOHN and JAMES SELLERS

Not absolutely sure the excerpt is referring to a community or a family. I
can't see where Greenlee is anywhere close to Muddy Creek. It is however
right on Cane Creek.

The URL for the map showing Greenlee's location is:

http://mapping.usgs.gov:8888/gnis/owa/MapServer?f_name=Greenlee&f_state=NC&f
_latlong=353953N0820715W&f_type=ppl&server=TIGER
 

By the way, in the Burke Co Deeds Muddy, Silver, Cain and Sellers Creeks
are all mentioned as if in close relationship to each other.

Inthe following passage, I think the unclear word could be Persimmon, a
branch of Silver Creek mentioned in the first deed listed on the land
records page.

1802/1803 =50 acres to JAMES SELLERS joining CHARLES MCDOWELL'S land
(bought
of Wm MCDOWELL)and JAMES SELLERS land on both sides of a small
branch of MUDDY CREEK  and MCDOWELLS line crossing the branch of the
P/B/egemmine?----
Wit:James SELLERS and Owen SUMMERRALE

If so, it may be that there was another Cain Creek to the East and South of
Cane Creek. Just speculating. Should probably learn more about surveying
methods back then. But it doesn't make sense to me to locate a 50 acre
track between two creeks several miles apart.

Cindy



CINDY - Thanks, I believe it pertains to GREENLEE family. There is a James Greenlee.
Yes, I took it that all these creeks laid in close proximity.
YES, looks like Persimmon fits!
Thanks for helping so much. marie, iowa

        From: CHARMAINE
             NOINTELLG@aol.com

Muddy Creek is located in the southeast corner of Burke County, as is
Silver Creek.  Muddy Creek headwaters originating in now McDowell Co., NC and
flowsinto the Catawba.  Silver Creek is a little more easterly, but headwaters
form in now McDowell Co., NC and flows into the Catawba just below
Morganton.

This makes sense, knowing that those Sellers in Burke living in that area
intermarried with the families located close to the county lines which form
McDowell and Rutherford, as they stand now.  Before 1842, when McDowell was
created, that area was also part of Burke.  There are various creeks named
Cain or Cane in the area, named after canebrakes, possibly the Cain Creek
referred to in the deeds is the Cain Creek now located in the confines of
McDowell Co., NC borders.

As to James Greenlee, he was the brother in law of Gen. Charles McDowell,
through his sister Grace Grizelle Greenlee Bowman.  He was one of the
largest property owners in Burke Co.  In 1778 he bought 800acres on the southside
of
the Catawba River, on both sides of Silver Creek, which may account to the
reference to his property in the Huggins deed abstracts.

Charmaine
CHARMAINE'S SELLERS PAGE =
http://www.netins.net/showcase/sellerfamily/char.htm



CHARMAINE - Thanks - very easy to understand and see. AND we appreciate you sharing!

CHARMAINE connects to  Rebekah Sellars and Moses Wilkerson, Burke Co., NC
who OR some children? went OR became Rutherford Co, NC from Burke co land and into McDowell Co and Later to Macon Co, NC? ( Charmaine, tell them the connection=names, dates, years)

CHARMAINE - have you found anything in these Lincoln/Burke Co, NC counties on land entries = Last Letter.
Thanks again for sharing, marie, iowa




SELLERS James 1799 2759
SELLERS James 1799 2798
SELLERS James 1803 3487
SELLERS James 1813 3855
SELLERS John 1787 1038
SELLERS John 1799 2764
SELLERS John 1800 3248
SELLERS Robert 1795 1718
SELLERS William 1803 3486

SORREL             Richard             1790       1452
SORRELL David 1792 1342
SORRELL Margaret 1804 3543
SORRELLS Margaret 1803 3351
SORRELS Walter 1779 59

WALTON                                 1800       3048*
WALTON 1808 3671
WALTON George S. 1840 5292*
WALTON H. H. 1910 6366
WALTON James 1825 4491*
WALTON James 1825 4492*
WALTON James 1825 4493*
WALTON Jesse 1847 5544
WALTON Jesse T. 1840 5292*
WALTON John 1800 3051
WALTON John 1803 3470
WALTON John 1803 3472
WALTON John 1803 3518
WALTON Thomas 1824 4461
WALTON Thomas 1830 4763
WALTON Thomas 1859 5747*
WALTON Thomas 1859 5748*
WALTON Tillman 1800 3232
WALTON Tillman 1800 3254
WALTON William 1800 3048*
WALTON William 1803 3404*
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WALTON William 1803 3482


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from Linda Peacock [lindaleepeacock@gmail.com]
1803 Tax list from Burke Co. NC.

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