Surname: SELLERS, BREWER

SEARCHING FOR FAMILY LINKS TO MONROE SELLERS-WIFE AMANDA
RULE . LEFT TN. MOVED TO KANSAS, ON TO OK. LATE 1800"S
BOTH WOULD HAVE BEEN FORMER SLAVES.CHILDREN: JESSIE, LEA,
BETTY,PETE, DUTCH. I AM THE GREAT-GREAT GRANDDAUGHTER OF
MONROE. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

CAN you send us AGES of ANY of these names=
WHO/WHEN married?
KIDS born when/where?
and PLACES.
THEY should be listed on census/will, etc?
THANKS for sharing SELLERS, marie, iowa

   From:
        Naomi Crawford <npcrawford@uswest.net>
     To:

MARIE, I AM SO NEW AT THIS FAMILY SEARCH  ON COMPUTER THAT
MOST  OF THE TIME WHEN I  FIND CERTAIN INFORMATION  IF I AM
NOT
VERY CAREFUL I CAN  REMEMBER HOW I GOT INTO  THE PROGRAM. I
HOPE THAT YOU  WILL BE ABLE TO HELP ME   LOCATE MY GREAT
GREAT
GRANDFATHER.  I DID HOWEVER,  LOCATE MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER
IN THE SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX.  SHE  PASSED AWAY
JANUARY
I986.   SHE WAS BORN IN TOPEKA, KANSAS MAY 2, 1884. GREW UP
IN
OKLAHOMA.
PARENTS: MONROE SELLERS (BORN IN TN.)
                   AMANDA  RULE SELLERS(I AM  TOLD BORN IN
TN. ALSO)
                   SPELLING OF AMANDA'S LAST NAME MAY NOT BE
CORRECT.

                  MONROE'S PARENTS WERE WILSON
SELLERS/MARYSELLERS
                  NOT AN AWFUL LOT WAS KNOWN ABOUT HER.
MONROES' SIBLINGS;  PETE,  ONE SISTER NAMED VINEY OR VINA
                                          MARRIED HORACE
VICK  AGAIN FROM THE
                                          MERIDIAN, OK.
LOGAN COUNTY AREA. THEY
                                         OWNED   LAND IN THE
AREA.

 MONROE, WIFE AMANDA, HIS PARENTS ARE ALL BURIED IN THE
MERIDIAN LOGAN COUNTY AREA.
MONROE HAD FIVE LIVING CHILDREN;
1.  JESSE SELLERS BREWER D.O.B    5-2-1884
2   LEA SELLERS  1889 , COULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN KANSAS OR
OK.
3.  BETTY SELLERS MCLUCAS PASSED IN OXNARD, CA.
4   DUTCH SELLERS    LIVED AND DIED IN FALLAS, OKLA  IN
1970S
5.. PETE SELLERS    D.O.B. ABOUT  1890 SERVED IN WWI.
MONROE SERVED IN THE SPANISH AMERICAN WAR.  HE LOST A LEG
IN THE WAR.
I HAVE A BILL OF SALE FOR LAND SIGNED BY MONROE SELLERS.
I HOPE THAT THIS WILL HELP SOME. OH, I FORGOT THEY TOOK PART

IN THE OKLAHOMA LAND RUN IN   APRIL 1889 .

PAT CRAWFORD, GREAT GRAND OF JESSE SELLERS BREWER.

1880 SHAWNEE CO, KS   (this is a soundex and does NOT show ALL names, you could check with this county for actual census where ALL names would be listed,msh)
MONROE SELLERS 32 TN, NORTH TOPEKA TWN
AMANDA 22 TN, WIFE
DUTCH 1 TN , SON

1900 LOGAN CO, OK, SPRINGVALE TWN
WILSON SELLERS 80TN, APRIL 1820, B
MARY 75 TN, --1825
MELDIA? CLARK , orphan, 13, TN

MONROE H. SELLERS 55 TN, MAY 1845 B
AMANDA 44 TN, JUNE 1855
DUTCH U? 21M TN, MARCH 1879
BETHARI 16F KS, JULY, 1882
JESSIE M. 14F MAY, 1882, KS
LEE F. 10M KS, JUNE 1890
PETER F. 7 OK, DEC 1892

IF MONROE SELLERS was in Spanish American War, you could try and find his birth place . Or how about an OBIT on him or amanda?
WILSON OR MARY SELLERS could have some cemetery info , maybe in LOGAN CO, OK

YOU'RE DOING good - ADVISE, or SEND COPY of any CONTACT. Thanks, marie, iowa

Marie , I don't know how to thank you. I wish that you could
have seen my grandmother's face when I
showed her the e-mail from you with her
grandfather/grandmothers names on it. She will be 93 years
old
Nov. 23.  She knew her grandfather and her grandmother
Monroe and Amanda.  My entire family
just went wild Sunday when I  showed  them.  However, I told
them that  I  could not take credit for anything, that you
had responded immediately to my  cry  for help.  We just do
not have anyone who
could tell me if  Wilson had a middle name.  There are so
many unanswered questions that  I know that I
can never have or  know the answers to.  I noticed that  my
great-great aunt's  birth year was the same as
my great-grandmother's.  The social security death index
listed Jesse Mae's d.o.b. as 1884.
Now Marie, How do I  go about  learning how many children
Wilson and Mary had and how would
I learn or gather any information about her?    Since I know
for a fact that Wilson was  born in slavery
how can or do I gather more information about him? Lots of
questions.  How do I piece the pieces
together.   How do I check with the county of Shawnee in
Kansas to gain farther knowledge?
I just learned from my  mother that Monroe Sellers is buried
in  the Evansville cemetery south of
Meridian , Ok. in Logan  county . Therefore, I think that
Wilson would be there also.  My mother also
told me that there are Sellers buried  at Union Hill
cemetery , near Meridian , Ok..
The Arizona family will host the Family Reunion 2001  in
August I am trying to piece together the  family
tree, with your help I am on my way, thank you once again..
Oh , for a little  humor my  son informed me yesterday that
I should not e-mail him or anyone else in all capitals I
laughed, but as you can see I did
as he suggested.

I AM GOING to give you some url's, addresses to web pages, where you
should be able to search for info or addresses. You should be able to
just click on these HiLited names,and Go. Use your top left BACK buttom
key to return. I also have had very good  help with the County Genealogy
societies, sometimes, located in the libraries. But, we get use to this
info being on line and we don't like to write the letter and wait a
week!  But , usually they have the census, obits, funeral records in
that county!
TRY THESE =
http://www.usgenweb.com/statelinkstext.html

http://www.tngenweb.org/tnlinks.htm
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnlinks.htm#ethnic

WHEN you click on a state to go to, SOMETIMES, the First page will list
Many state projects, that are NOT listed on the county pages.

ANY of our SELLERS have info on SELLERS SLAVES info? SEND a copy to both of us.
Thanks, marie, iowa
=========

Naomi Crawford wrote:

Hi Marie, have not heard from you in a while. This  is in
regards to Wilson Sellers and son Monroe of
TN. .  I have not been able to locate them in Tn.,  in the
1860, 1870, 1850,.  Where do I go from here?
I know  from oral history that they did live at one time in
Tn..  I am visiting the Family History Center in
Mesa, Arizona  so I am hoping that something will turn up
soon.  Any suggestions will be welcomed.
I am still having  fun doing  this research.  Let me know
what you think.  Thanks , Pat Crawford

---

Hi Marie, it has been quite awhile since I have been in
touch, trust that you are doing well.  I wanted  you
to know that I finally was able to locate  Wilson Sellers ,
wife Mary and son Peter in DeKalbe Co. Tn.,
not in Ratherford.  Last name spelled with the letter
Cellers.  I am sure you can imagined how elated I
was today when that occurred.  Because you had given me my
first push I wanted to share the good news
with you.  My next big task is now to find out who he slave
master was.  That , I  am sure will take as
long as it did to locate Wilson in the 1870 Census.  Thanks
as Always Pat Crawford

NOW, you have probably read our DEKALB CO, TN page=
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/tndekalb.htm

ON there you will find extraction of  will  =
1861 WILL of MATHEW SELLAR =1861/wb-b/84
dated 1857, codicil 1860=(probated=?)
wife, CHARLOTTA
children=
MARY BRASWELL
WILLIAM
DENNIS/DENICE
DENNIAM/DEMARIS SMITH
CHARITY KITHART
SANSADA WILLIAMS

OTHER children with issue, deceased by 1857 and disinherited.
MANY slaves
LAND
(NO probate papers?msh)
====================================

IF ANYONE has COPY of ORIGINAL = Please SEND
or you can ORDER and ask for all probate papers, etc.
SOMETIMES , IT lists the slaves names. Sounds good possibility!

NOW, there are also others listed on the 1870 census that could be his brothers/sisters?
I believe? 1870 was the first census, slaves, indians, colored etc were listed
(this is not the Exact/Correct wording) But, maybe it will tell you what I mean.

THANKS for sharing, marie, iowa

PAT, Thanks. Am sending thru the SELLERS list as someone may know better how to study slaves, etc.

MY first thought would be to get a copy of ALL probate or estate records on this MATHEW SELLERS born ca 1783 will of
1860 DEKALB CO, TN. somewhere on that page it shows he had ELEVEN SLAVES. The estate papers MAY show that a certain slave went to so and so.
ON that DEKALB CO, TN page I don't think it lists ANY OTHER SELLERS with SLAVES?
http://showcase.netins.net/web/sellerfamily/tndekalb.htm

There may also be something on the DEKALB CO, TN usgenweb page.
ONCE in a while you'll find a slave schedule or census = you'll have to see if available for that area in 1850/55 etc.

ALSO, I would order the civil war  pension record for MONROE SELLERS. May be birth info, etc.
THANKS for sharing, marie, iowa

     From:
          "Naomi Crawford" <npcrawford@qwest.net>

Hi Marie, I spoke with the  OK. Dept. Of Libraries/Archives and they had
nothing on Monroe Hays
or   Sellers , they stated that he was a Union soldier and  that he was
paid by the Fed. Govt. .  Ok so I
decided to try the Ok Historical Society, same story and I was told my
only hope would be the NARA
I sent away for the  records in May and it takes forever.  I also had a
response from the TN. Civil War
index no luck there.  Now I received another response  from the Index to
the compiled Service Records
of volunteer Union Soldiers Who served with U.S. Colored Troops.
Microcopy #589. Microfilm
Two Monroe Hayes were found
(1) Monroe Hayes  Co. D, 1 US Col'd Heavy Infantry
(2) Monroe Hayes  Co. G. 47 US Col'd Infantry
The index did not  give a state for the soldiers.
Could they be one of the same and how would I obtain the microfilm?
What do you think?
Also you would be proud of me , I contacted the DeKalb co . Courthouse
for  Matthew's Will .  I am
learning.  Thanks as always just wanted to let you and ask question to.
(smile)  .  Will talk to you later.
Pat

PAT, you are doing good!
this is the page where it shows his unit as  I 5 TENN  CAV=

http://data.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=civilwarpension&gs=&srvr=data&ti=0&se=sse.dll&f2=monroe+sellers&f3=&f6=&Title=Civil+War+Pension+Index&DatabaseID=4654&databasename=civilwarpension&server=data&searchengine=sse.dll&type=p&ti=0&submit=Search

and  (turn your images on)

http://www.ancestry.com/search/io/browse.asp?c=1&client=T288_207&image=1072&hash=848366927&width=608&height=564&levels=5&colorspace=Grayscale

hope they come thro and maybe help. Thanks, marie, iowa

RICHARD, thanks for your comments and input. I know PAT will appreciate the
additional info. (Civil War Page)

http://members.aol.com/jweaver303/tn/5tncavus.htm (this could be his
unit,msh)
this was just a fast look and didn't see much on this unit.
Then if you use your Back button on the above link, it takes you to the diff
named units. Couldn't find a roster, but, it was a quick look.
Maybe PAT will order this civil war file and report the contents. He may Not
have been listed as colored? don't think the other census show him as
colored. don't remember.
BUT, his father could have been a slave of our MATHEW SELLERS in DeKalb Co,
Tn in 1850.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. marie,  iowa

Hi, how are you?  I received my will today and have been
going over it.  I do believe that I found (Munroe)
Monroe Sellers willed to  his daughter Canzada Williams.  I
may have found Mary not sure but no Wilson and no  younger
son Peter.  However, I will keep working with  it.  If you
have any suggestions please feel
to make them at any time  as always I need them.
I found that Matthew willed a Mary  to his daughter Charity
and he willed a Mary C   it seems like to his son  William
Sellers.  What do you think?   Thanks Pat

marie sellers hollinger
12871 285th street
mason city, ia 50401-9118

Monroe married Amanda Rule and their youngest son born in
Ok. Dec. 1890 was named Pete Frank Sellers.   I have been
told that the  Pete that was born in Tn. died in Tn. and
Wilson and family left  Tn.
 after his death and migrated to Ks..  They may have lived
in some other state before reaching Ks.  I have no  idea.
The older grandchildren of Monroe  Sellers are very excited
that I am attempting to pull  together
our family history for they knew their grandfather very
well.  Pat
 

Yes, Marie I have Wilson in 1870  but what I do not have is Wilson  at the same
time as Monroe in 1860
or even before, that is what I meant.  I thought that if  I could find  Monroe
as  I did in Matthew Sellers  Will,  that I would automatically find his mother
and father.  That is why I asked the  question a while back
was Wilson's family always with the Sellers because they all left  or most left
Tn. as  a whole family ,except
for  young Pete Sellers and  it has been passed down through the years that he (
Pete) was killed by the
Night Riders and that was why Wilson decided to take his family and leave
during the 1870's  and move
to Kansas.  When ever I run into a brick wall with one of the Sellers I start
working on another hoping to
gain information in some other form.  I need to tell you that I was able to find
Monroe Sellers at age 20
leaving in Nashville and married to  one Delia Ann Page  March 10, 1865.   He
was in the Civil War
at that time .  I called about  getting a copy and the information that I gave
them as well as the dob matched
up, so I ordered it.  I always thought that Amanda Rule Sellers was he only
spouse.  So one can learn an
awful lot  from old records ( smile).    My cousin from Ok. called me over the
weekend to tell me that she and her husband had attended his  family reunion in
Maryland  recently and that  there was another
family reunion going on and they were Sellars out of  NC.  They had no family
history written up shen went in and talked with them.  I told her that the
spelling of a name means absolutely nothing, and I have learned
and was told that from the start.   They were African Americans ,  I  forgot to
add that.  She is going to
mail me a copy of the material that she received from them.  Take care and as
always I appreciate you.
I can not thank you enough for typing that will up for me.  Pat
 

A list of SLAVES before we STARTED listing them to cenus AFTER 1860?
SOME states had a few SLAVES CENSUS ca 1855 = DID TN?

A LIST OF SLAVES granted on ANYONE else's WILLS=

WE DO NOT have this MATHEW SELLERS Proven to an exact county/state,
so a connection to THIS family COULD help ALL of us.
BUT, Wilson was only born 1830 and we had already been here 30 yrs, so don't know,
UNLESS a family connection =
WORTH checking out!

IF the HAYS family of Slaves started with this Family EARLIER?
BUT, many lists I have seen, Only list First Names.

CHECK the HAYS FAMILY history/genealogy on line for this area?
marie, iowa
=========

Naomi Crawford wrote:

Marie, thanks.  Listen if  Wilson's parents were born in Va. ,does mean that I
should be looking for them in that state?  Now, I really do not have a name for
them.  I think that I will wait for that one.  (smile).  Once
I find that information  all will be well  for I will be able to tie it all
together.  Thanks Pat

marie sellers hollinger wrote:

> PAT,
> 1880 KANSAS - these are kinda hard to read = I didn't clean them up - marie,
> iowa
>
> 1880
>  Census Place: Topeka, Shawnee, Kansas
>  Source: FHL Film 1254396  National Archives Film T9-0396     Page 7D
>  Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> Wilson SELLERS Self M M B 50 TN
>  Occ: Teamster Fa: VA Mo: VA
> Mary SELLERS Wife F M B 53 TN
>  Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA
> =====
>  Census Place: Topeka, Shawnee, Kansas
>  Source: FHL Film 1254396  National Archives Film T9-0396     Page 7D
>  Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace
> Monroe SELLERS Self M M B 32 TN
>  Occ: Gardener Fa: TN Mo: TN
> Amanda SELLERS Wife F M B 22 TN
>  Occ: Wash Woman Fa: TN Mo: TN
> Dutch SELLERS Son M S B 1 TN
>  Occ: At Home Fa: TN Mo: TN
> ===

Seasoning greetings Marie, just wanted to say hello and
hope that all is well.  My grandmother the granddaughter of
Monroe  H. Sellers celebrated her 94th birthday Nov. 23rd.
She has not been very well but we are just so grateful to
have her with us just a little while longer.  Still alert
and communicate well with others.  Enjoy,   Pat Crawford,
Arizona